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Why we should not bomb Iran

Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:18:51 -0400

Ignorance: I’m worried about Iran. They are building a nuclear weapon, then they will blow up Israel and we will have even more terrorist attacks on our country. We most protect ourselves. The only way to do that is to attack Iran before they attack us.

Knowledge: Why do you think Iran would have a nuclear weapon?

Ignorance: Because they are a violent country and they have a crazy president.

Knowledge: Do you know when the last time Iran attacked another country was? It was 300 years ago.

Ignorance: Well, they have a crazy president who would do it.

Knowledge: What would they do?

Ignorance: They would attack us with a nuclear weapon.

Knowledge: Did you know that the national intelligence estimate has concluded that there is no evidence that Iran is working on a nuclear weapon. It is the consensus of 16 different US intelligence agencies including the CIA, the DIA, army intelligence, navy intelligence, air force intelligence, the department of energy as well as the department of homeland security.

Ignorance: I don’t care. They have nuclear ambitions.

Knowledge: What exactly do you mean by ambitions?

Ignorance: That is what they say on the news. It means they want to build a bomb to attack us.

Knowledge: That is what the media and politicians say because they know that there is no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program, but they want us all to be scared and to believe that the Iranian government would be crazy enough to use a nuclear weapon against us. That way our government will have the support of the American people if we decide to take military action against Iran just like when we invaded Iraq. We would be able to say that we are protecting ourselves in self-defense.

Ignorance: Saddam was a bad man.

Knowledge: But Iraq did not have any nuclear weapons either. Can you tell me which is the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon against another country? I will give you a hint. It begins with a U and ends with an S.

Ignorance: But we signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.

Knowledge: Iran also signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. It was one of the first countries to sign.

Ignorance: But Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map.

Knowledge: That is not an exact translation, but yes. That was what the Iranian president said. However, Ahmadinejad is just the president and not the supreme leader. Even if he wanted to attack Israel, he wouldn’t have the authority to order it. Only the supreme leader can declare war or mobilize troops. However, the supreme leader has already spoken out against having nuclear weapons. Speaking of military action, what do you suppose it means when the US says “Nothing is off the table”? Do you think that could possibly mean nuclear attack?

Ignorance: Of course, it means nothing is off the table.

Knowledge: Well then, that means the United States has threatened the use of nuclear weapons against Iran, which also happens to be a violation of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty we signed. George Bush, Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, John McCain, and other American politicians have all said nothing is off the table when referring to Iran.

Ignorance: John McCain said to bomb Iran. He sang a song and it was funny. Bomb bomb Iran.

Knowledge: Do you know that the United States has already drafted a military plan of attack against Iran. Iran has also been called part of the evil axis by President Bush. So do you think Iran might actually have a reason to fear an attack from the United States? The United States have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, which both have borders with Iran. The United States also has troops in military bases in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as well as a very large naval presence in the Persian Gulf. The United States is allies with Israel, who has nuclear weapons, and which has already discussed and advocated an attack on Iran. And Israel will not sign the nuclear nonproliferation treaty either. So do you think maybe Iran might possibly have a reason to want to protect itself?
Ignorance: We can’t let Iran have a nuclear bomb they will attack us again, just like 9/11.

Knowledge: Then if that is really what you want, why in God’s name should we be doing everything humanly possible to provoke and threaten Iran and give them a reason to make a nuclear weapon to defend themselves? Do you see even the slightest sense of logic in the US foreign policy if we don’t want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Don’t you think if we really didn’t want a country to have a nuclear weapon, then you would not threaten to attack it or invade its neighbors or have military troops surrounding it from all sides? Would the United States feel threatened if Iran invaded Canada and Mexico and conducted naval military exercises in the Caribbean?

Ignorance: I don’t want another 9/11.

Knowledge: Do you even know where the 9/11 hijackers were from?

Ignorance: I don’t care.

Knowledge: They were from Saudi Arabia and Egypt not Iran. Yet both Saudi Arabia and Egypt happen to be US allies. We give them both billions of dollars in aid every year.
Ignorance: I don’t like any of them. They attacked us.

Knowledge: Who are they? Arabs. Iranians are not Arabs.

Ignorance: Well, they attacked. I mean they were responsible for… I mean they… they… they hate us.

Knowledge: You blame them for hating us?

Ignorance: They are not democratic.

Knowledge: Iran used to have a democratic government.

Ignorance: Then they were not smart enough to keep it.

Knowledge: No. Actually, they had a popular democratic leader, but the United States CIA overthrew the prime minister, Mohammed Mossadeq, in a kill in 1953. In other words, we overthrew their government.

Ignorance: That does not make sense. The United States supports democracy like in Afghanistan.

Knowledge: Hamid Karzai is the president of Afghanistan and was a formal ally of the US and a former CIA contact during the 1980s, when they were fighting the Soviet Union. So we supported him as president because Karzai aided what the US and Britain wanted him to do.

Ignorance: That is what I mean. He is democratic.

Knowledge: So is Mohammed Mossadeq. Mossadeq was the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran in 1953 before he was removed from power by the United States because he did not do what we wanted him to do.

Ignorance: He was a communist.

Knowledge: Mossadeq wanted Iran to keep the profits from their own oil to help their own country, so British Petroleum would not take it all.

Ignorance: They spilled oil in the Persian Gulf.

Knowledge: No. Actually, British Petroleum spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico. They used to be called the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in the 1950s because Britain got all of its oil from Iran.

Ignorance: Anyway, they support terrorism.

Knowledge: Who?

Ignorance: The Iranians.

Knowledge: The United States government gives financial support to the MEK and PJAK which are all terrorist groups that operate within Iran, and are responsible for attacking, kidnapping, and assassinations in Iran. So tell me, what is the difference? Terrorism is terrorism. It is just as bad no matter who does it or supports it. In 1988, a United States navy ship shot and blew up an Iranian passenger jet in the Persian Gulf killing 274 innocent civilians. Isn’t that a terrorist attack?

Ignorance: It was an accident.

Knowledge: Can you think of any other time in the history of aviation that a passenger jet has been shot down by mistake? So then, I suppose the one time it does happen it just coincidently happens to be by one country against its adversary right at a time of heightened tension? Can you imagine how the US would react if the Iranian military shot down a US passenger jet and killed 274 people, mostly American?
Ignorance: It was not on purpose. It was an accident. How come I’ve never heard of this before?

Knowledge: The US news media does not like to talk about it because they don’t want Americans to think our government has engaged in acts of terrorism. They want us to believe it is only the behavior of countries like Iran. Everything I am saying is fully documented. You can check it yourself on Google or Wikipedia. If you are really opposed to terrorism, I don’t see the difference if one country supports it or another. Isn’t it all equally as bad?

Ignorance: We should attack Iran.

Knowledge: Just because the Iranian government is bad in many ways, does not mean we should simply attack the country. I don’t think you fully realize what would happen if we really did attack Iran. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. What do you think would be their reaction if we attacked an Islamic country, after what we have already done in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Ignorance: I don’t care what they would think. It doesn’t matter.

Knowledge: On a scale of 1 to 10, where do you think the level of anger would be against the US if we attacked another Islamic country?

Ignorance: It doesn’t matter.

Knowledge: Is it more likely to go up or go down? If you are trying to protect America, then why would you want to increase the anger in this world against us? Iran is three times the size of Iraq with three times the population and a very powerful military unlike Iraq, and yet we still don’t have a stable situation in Iraq after 7 years and 2 trillion dollars.

Ignorance: But Saddam was a bad man, so it was worth it.

Knowledge: Fortunately for us, many of the Iranian people like Americans, and do not like their government.

Ignorance: That is a good thing, so it will be an easy job for us.

Knowledge: Then what do you think would happen if we attacked Iran?

Ignorance: They would greet us with flowers.

Knowledge: Did we greet Al Qaeda with flowers after they attacked the twin towers in New York City? Instead, did most Americans put aside our complaints and rally behind our government in a show of nationalism?

Ignorance: I put a flag on my car. I don’t understand what you are saying.

Knowledge: Don’t you think the Iranian people would also put Iranian flags on their cars if the US attacked them?

Ignorance: Yes.

Knowledge: Then why would anyone in America want to push the Iranian people away from liking the US to support the very government we despise so much?

Ignorance: Of course. No one would want to do that.

Knowledge: Then please give me any sensible reason why the United States should attack or even threaten to attack Iran?

Ignorance: I don’t need a sensible reason.

Knowledge: Why?

Ignorance: Because I’m a racist hater who supports violence against people I hate.

Knowledge: Maybe Iran should attack the United States after all.

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Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:10:28 -0400

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Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:55:55 -0400

We Are Being Surveilled - Camouflage Yourself!

Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:58:51 -0400

We Are Being Surveilled - Camouflage Yourself!:

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Surveillance is developing in more and more domains and at an extremely rapid pace. Surveillance cameras are obviously involved, as are miniaturized cards, portable telephones, the growing number of recording devices of all kinds, the Internet and electronic “cookies.” This is the era of Big Brother! Today, when cameras equipped with face recognition software add their specters to the pantheon of the failed illusions of security, the government is trying to pass liberty-killing laws under the fallacious pretext of the “fight against terrorism.”

Here, we are made to live in the psychosis of continual control: filmed, surveilled and filed all day, as if we are all criminal suspects, and asked to accept the “fact” that — in the name of our security — men, women and children will have to be killed. We denounce those truly responsible for this masquerade, those thirsty for political power who do not hesitate to use demagoguery and opportunism to inflame the fears of “the Other” and who, even before September 11, were playing the “Total Security” card in an attempt to get votes. We demand the rejection, from now on, of politics in the service of the maintenance of the market — economy and social inequities, of politics that have as their guiding principle the enslavement of the general population and the restriction of human possibilities.

We hope to live in a different world, one in which we don’t have to submit ourselves to the government-subsidized industrial companies that pollute our air, land and water, that rapaciously enrich themselves by riding the backs of workers, those in precarious socio-economic situations, and that set up the market in the surveillance of human beings. The images of money-traffickers and fiscal paradises, political operatives who can act with total impunity, and deal-makers working in the rich soils of the powerful will not be captured by surveillance cameras, despite the facts that they are the ones who are responsible for the world in which we are forced to live, and who should be held accountable for it.

The supermarket is surveilled, as are the streets, offices and factories. What a plethora of images! And why are they captured? In the supermarket, each movement and gesture of the apathetic consumer is filmed and analyzed so as to discover the unknown factor that will facilitate the sale of mad-cow-infected meats, spoiled cheeses, and aseptic chickens. At the office and at the factory, we are surveilled in the name of profits; in the street, we are surveilled so that we never lose the sense of being watched! For what purpose? To force behavior to become normalized; all movements other than normal become suspicious. When will we address ourselves to the real problems, the ones that erode our capacity for life?

When will we have the intelligence — which is lacking in this society, which turns in the wrong direction — to refuse to accept these conditions, neither for us nor for the generations to come? The progress of digitalization and computerized information profits the type of social control that we fear will exist in the future. Aren’t people already enmeshed in the gears of the market, which without hesitation supports every political manipulation so as to have servile consumers? We say “no” to the liberty-killing laws that would legalize this fuckery.

We reclaim the right to possess “disguises.” We reclaim the right to a private life. We reclaim individual freedom, not simply the freedom to exist, but all freedoms.

— Collective for Individual Freedom in the Age of Information Technologies

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anoninfowarfare: Anonymous OpEPOCH Transmission 4 This is a...

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:32:45 -0500

anoninfowarfare:

Anonymous OpEPOCH Transmission 4

This is a warning from Anonymous, OpEPOCH, to all world governments who continue to engage in tyranny and the abuse of civil rights. Expect us. This is also a warning to those individuals who still believe that the current situation is an acceptable reality to live in - we have arrived to wake you up. It is an invitation to those who are equally angered by recent events, to join us in the fight.

This message has been created in synchronicity with Project Mayhem 2012. We do not speak for Project Mayhem, and we do not speak for Anonymous. But we do speak with them.
We have been watching you for some time now, just as you have been watching us extend our reach into global real-world protests and demonstrations. The Constitution continues to be ignored as laws are introduced in rapid succession to erase our rights of free speech and public assembly.

SOPA, ACTA, NDAA, HR347 are all attacks on the constitution and our civil liberties.
In addition to our engagement with the Occupy movement, Anonymous has activated our own initiatives against those who would seek to do harm to the innocent and the abused including OpLiberation, OpCashBack, OpYoungPony, OpMonsanto and OpTriptoSyria. A small sample of the operations currently being undertaken.

We help where others will not. We go where others cannot. We are Anonymous.

It is time that we come forth, and let the world know of our actions. Over the past months you have witnessed Project Mayhem 2012 rattling your cages. You’ve felt fear, Love, curiosity and attraction. You have seen the rise of EtherSec and the creation of OpEPOCH
We are distributing this message to notify the people of the world of a hybrid virus. A virus to which you’ve all been exposed to. This is a very sophisticated virus, created from a desire to stand together in the face of tyranny.

The virus is so potent, just today they have moved the G 8 summit to Camp David, so that they will not be exposed.

This virus can be easily transmitted through a simple thought or word, video or picture. This virus is one of strength, love and lulz. If you have been infected by the virus, you will experience the following symptoms:

Anger and shock at how far this world has gone into disrepair.
Love and admiration for your fellow freedom fighters around the globe.
A renewed enthusiasm and sense of unity.
The death of fear.
Inspiration to take back ownership of your world.

This virus is one of mass seduction, and is contained in the videos released by Project Mayhem 2012 and OpEPOCH. This weapon of mass seduction has been claiming victims by the thousands. This virus will only grow and now you to have become a victim of the virus. Go forth and multiply.

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“… here is a sitting president that’s leaving office and the most important thing that he wants to tell people is that you have to be careful because there is a machine here that wants to go to war; there is a BUSINESS behind going to other countries and screwing people up and taking their resources… And they sacrifice American lives to do this, and they do it for PROFIT… and it sounds absolutely outrageous, but yet, that’s what history says.”

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Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:58:49 -0500

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"If you think you’re trapped, you are. When you realize you aren’t, then you start to..."

Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:12:38 -0400

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